Hiring new mercenaries: Hedge Knight, Crusader. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. 76% Upvoted. Finally we got together and did the last brawl to conclude which UGS is the best! Further, you can boost thrust damage with the leo ring. It is usually much lower on heavy armour, though not on every set. Durability / Weight - Attack Type - Skill; Skill. The Zweihander can be found in the cementary where the The_Catacombs is. I've been using Zweihander, and likely will not change. The Greatsword is more versatile due to its moveset, but less practical due to its shorter range and weight. 7 years ago. Crystal Greatsword: 190 – – – 100 C C – – 60 8.0 Flamberge: 100 – – – 100 D C – – 160 6.0 Great Lord Greatsword: 256 – – – 100 D D – – 400 8.0 Greatsword of Artorias: 120 85 – – 100 C C B B 400 10.0 Greatsword of Artorias (Cursed) 178 – – – 100 C C C C 400 10.0 Man-serpent Greatsword Also, the Greatsword's base damage is 400 vs the Zweihander's 360. This land was overrun by the abyss, spread by Manus. This weapon is the heaviest, the biggest and probably the strongest you can acquire early in your early adventure. Close. Zweihander all the way. Abyss Dweller. Abyss Greatsword prepare to be disappointed .. Mon May 27, 2013 10:56 am. May 22, 2017 @ 9:13pm what else is good? Watch Queue Queue Why, Sif? Astora's is also lighter. If you already have the faith, int and dex requirements for the Abyss Greatsword it's worth the farming time to try it. TheNeeoo TheNeeoo. I have never used these before, and would liek to roleplay as artorias (or maybe just a paladin.) I got my Zwei at +10 and I'm not sure if I should make it +15 or if I should make it into the abyss greatsword and upgrade that. Thrust damage is advantageous because there is no armour that is particularly good versus it. That is, it’s too long to wear, and too big to use in one hand with any reasonable expectation of ease. © Valve Corporation. Home. share. A greatsword is one word to describe a dedicated two-handed sword. The wolf knight was the first Abyss Watcher, and his sword is more punishing against creations of the abyss. 2. Posted by. report. hide. Ore Smelters increase availability. Profaned Greatsword is a weapon in dark souls 3. Zweihander vs Greatsword. Posted by 1 month ago. Greatsword of Artorias +5 (Cursed) = 237 Attack, 100 critical, C str, dex, int, & faith modifiers. Question. Proud owner of this mediocre looking, poorly maintained and typically Dark Souls relevant blog. Smallsword versus two-handed sword - which has the advantage and what can each swordsman do to counter the other? Zweihander vs. astora Which one should i use? Any dagger, straight or great sword will make the Abyss greatsword. Can be found in the Undead Frozen Pond event. It is an excellent choice for you if you like the claymore but with some extra power behind it. OnionBro. Greatsword weighs 2 units more, requires 4 extra stat points, and has the same amount of damage. It also has an amazing moveset. Weapon: Zweihander … On a strength build, I use the Zweihander prior to the Demon Machete. save hide report. they do about the same damage in PvP and PvE, but i like the astora moveset. You can upgrade a dagger or straight sword to +10 for about 52,000 souls. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Trivia 5 Upgrades 6 Videos Sold by Greirat for 6,000 souls once he returns from his pillaging travel in the Undead Settlement. They both have the exact same scaling. Zweihander's R2 pancakes and travels a long distance Greatsword's R2 is a simple stab that can be outranged, sidestepped, or very easily parried as you have enough time to literally see the start of the attack and get close to parry even with lag. Ascension with the Soul of Artorias and any normal +10 Greatsword, straight sword or dagger (exept Broken Sword or Straight Sword Hilt). There's only 1 zwei per playthrough. The hero tried to stop the growing dark, tried to defeat Manus, and succeeded. Here is the build http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=249311689700564021 I personally prefer the greatsword, since it can do both normal and thrust (strong attack). You could buy a bas.♥♥♥♥ sword from Andre. Abyss Greatsword is a Weapon in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered. #1. Report Save. What's better? level 1. Question. share. When you enter the cementary you will see a few skeletons and at least one Artorias' Greatsword vs Zweihander. Daniel is a freelance writer currently writing lists for CBR and TheGamer. share | improve this answer | follow | answered Oct 14 '14 at 18:20. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). "Greatsword of the Black Knights who wander Lordran. Zweihander has more reach, I believe, plus that 2H R2 is so friggin' sexy... Ohhh man, with chaos? I hope you enjoy my and Franzetta's epic brawl. #2. for the motherland. Zweihander and Greatsword R1's are the same speed Zweihander has a faster R2 Zweihander's R2 pancakes and travels a long distance Greatsword's R2 is a simple stab that can be outranged, sidestepped, or very easily parried as you have enough time to literally see the start of the attack and get close to parry even with lag. Why not have both? Located on a corpse in the graveyard between the Firelink Shrine and The Catacombs behind three Skeletons and one Giant Skeleton. A community dedicated to Dark Souls I, game released for PC, PlayStation 3 and 4, Xbox 360/One, and Switch (Remastered). Vertical Ultra Greatswords have the standard Ultra Greatsword moveset when they are 1-handed, but when 2-handed, the normal attacks turn into vertical slams and the ability to hit behind the user when the second normal attack is used. The Abyss Greatsword shares the longest reach of any weapon in its class, along with the two other swords of Artorias. If infusing with an element, go astora's as it has higher elemental scaling then most weapons in the game. December. 548 1 1 gold badge 5 5 silver badges 10 10 bronze badges. < > Showing 1-10 of 10 comments . save. add a comment | 0. I gave it away not long after making it .. Abyss greatsword and greatsword of artorias are both far underpowered. Thrusting attacks also get a bonus for counter damage, even without the Leo Ring. That's new to me, never really payed attention to the differences between thrust and slash defenses. The greatsword actually does a lot more poise damage with each swing. Close. Report Save. This video is unavailable. 1. share. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Use another weapon to make an abyss. As for using abyss or not, you need to decide if the requirements are worth it. Both weapons at +5 enchanted have [E(15) / E(6)/ A(108) / --] scaling values. The Greatsword should do more damage with the stats you have. Greatsword is an all around better damage dealer. since it has better scaling. Had to go no armor against Manus, he was just to fast and furious to dodge in my usual Elite Knight armor set. Name & Icon: Attack Power Damage Reduction (%) Requirements. The Abyss Greatsword scales it’s damage with soft humanity, and while, say, a chaos zweihander would outdamage it, the zwei doesn’t have the rad moveset or badass look to it (it probably does, I’ve just done 3 or 4 runs with it so it feels bland). So... is there ANY advantage in using the Greatsword? PSN: Dibsville EarthScraper wrote:OK, now I've just learnt that you never mess with Dibs on a Dark Souls topic, cause he will put you down. Notes: Give to Frampt to receive 50 souls. 9 years ago. The difference in attack rating between 0 and 10 humanity is around 74 at minimum stat requirements. I don't have anything to back this up...but it seems like the Zweihander does more poise damage. the moveset on that sword is a lot of fun, and its almost never seen in pvp so you could catch people by surprise with it. Besides, you can use it early in the game (just run to the cemitery and take it). Unsung hero wielded an enormous greatsword, and with the last strike, the weapon absorbed a bit of the dark beast's soul. May 22, 2017 @ 9:07pm I'd go for Astora, if it's only a choice between those two. Astora's on a quality, Zwei on a strength. What is it that everyone likes about the zwei, the lower strength requirement? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Upgrades 5 Notes 6 Trivia Obtained by transposing the Soul of the Twin Princes with Ludleth of Courland. In your experiences, which one of these is best? 0. The difference is that the greatsword strong attack is a thrust damage type. Zwei hander is one of the best ultra greatswords you can acquire. Maybe I've just used it more... A possible reason for this is the zweihander has a shockwave during its r2 attacks, when it connects with the ground. Should I ascend my Zweihander to Artorias' Greatsword or just upgrade it normally? A powerful relic, as well as a reminder of how … Corruption then clinged deep into the blade, and thus, the Abyss Zweihander was born. But now I'm stuck with unused faith stats, likely I'll start over for better build... Last edited by C03; Nov 16, 2016 @ 5:59pm < > Showing 1-15 of 23 comments . solari71. 1. share. zweihander dark souls. I can't find a definitive answer for whether one is better or not. They are actually identical, the wikispaces website is incorrect. 8 comments. Watch Queue Queue. Dissappointing, because they look badass. Archived. That said, the difference is really a matter of preference. Any thoughts? With such reach and a Pose break of 53, which is not very affordable after considering mobility, the running attack is a great way to dead-angle and to halt running back stabs. Comparing the Zweihander and the Greatsword I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). On 25th December 2020 By . … Well, in some cases, not bloody much. Everyone seems to love the Zwei, but it seems no love is given to the greatsword. The Zweihander is an ultra greatsword in Dark Souls III. If you compare the special damage resistances on armour to their defence vs regular type attacks, heavy armour has much higher resistance to slash, while usually lower resistance to strike. For the Dark Souls II variant, see Zweihander (Dark Souls II). 1. 7 years ago. Dibsville. This shockwave extends past the length of the blade, and can cause staggering without actually causing any damage. Press J to jump to the feed. For the Dark Souls variant, see Zweihander. The reverse is true for light armour. Zweihander vs Greatsword. While the wiki may say both have the same letter-grade scaling, there IS still a possibility of difference: it is possibly that one may scale slightly better but still qualify as "B" scaling. What's better? The Zweihander have the same basic attack and the strong attack of the Zweihander, in my opinion, is a litlle better. So... is there any difference besides the strong attack of the Greatsword? Param Bonus. Artorias' Greatsword vs Zweihander. The Abyss Greatsword is a much better version of the Greatsword of Artorias. Pancakes beat stabs any day of the week. You wouldn't be using the Greatsword on a Leo build though. On the flip side, its R2 attacks are nearly useless. I use the zwei because it's lighter and looks cooler, but the greatsword I would say has a much more useful r2. Assuming the Wiki is right, the only differences are the requirements and the moveset, but the Greatsword's thrust is much better, at least in my opinion. I might just have to equip the Mask of the Father. That would probably make an abyss greatsword. but I think that, their stat requirements and their movesets are all the differences there are between them. Obtained by transposing the Soul of the Blood of the Wolf and 10,000 souls with Ludleth of Courland. Damn I'm getting turned on at the thought. WHY? I find Mugenmonkey's build calculator to be a much better source than the wikis, which have lots of errors. 2020. Loot in battle: Brigand Leader, Hedge Knight, Zweihander. A long two-handed blade as good for crushing as for cutting. Zweihander Ultra Greatsword. However, there is almost no armour where the thrust resistance isn't at least equal or lower than the regular value. Yallus. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. level 1. How to Get / Where to Find the Abyss Greatsword. It is 100 damages lower but permit me to fast roll, totally worth it. 145. I was taking a quick look at the Greatswords that I had and I noticed something: Both the Greatsword and the Zweihander have the same base damage stats, even if you upgrade them, but the Greatsword have higher Str requirements (the Zweihander needs 24 str and the Greatsword needs 28 str). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Using the Ultra-greatsword Zweihander against Manus. Can be found in the Free Greenskin Prisoners contract. Atlhough Zwei's R2 can also be sidestepped, it has a faster … Also, if you guys have any … an Enchanted Greatsword +5 has better int scaling(A) than an Enchanted Zweihander +5(B), according to the wiki. 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